Filling Up Prisons Without Fighting Crime: Mark Kleiman on America’s Criminal Justice System
UCLA Professor of Public Affairs Mark Kleiman is “angry about having too much crime and an intolerable number of people behind bars.” The United States is home to five percent of the world’s population and 25 percent of the world’s prisoners, yet, says Kleiman, our high incarceration rate isn’t making us safer. In his book, “When Brute Force Fails,” Kleiman explains that, when it comes to punishment, there is a trade-off between severity and swiftness. For too long the US has erred heavily on the side of severity, but if we concentrate enforcement and provide immediate consequences for law-breakers, Kleiman says we can both reduce the crime rate and put fewer people in prison. Approximately 7 minutes. Interview by Zach Weissmueller. Shot by Alex Manning. Edited by Weissmueller. Subscribe to Reason.tv’s YouTube channel to receive automatic notification when new material goes live. Video Rating: 4 / 5
Prison is for murder and rape
Big fat cats are too many to make money out of these poor men and women.
Get rid of your victimless crimes and you can empty your jails.
Drugs and prostitution really shouldn’t be treated as a crime … and of course if you decriminalise them you immediately hurt the real criminals who are currently making a fortune from this stuff.
yeah, the title is basically true. prisoners fill up the cells but then nothing has changed in criminality rates. disgustingly factual!
The guy seems to have a few good points but goes off on tangents and misses the two biggest problems: criminals are made, not born and the prison system is trying to lock up poor people.
Most repeat violent offenders are the victims of severe abuse and can be rehabilitated given the right programs and the prison system is more concerned with locking up the poor then anyone else.
poor (shit) schools keep prison populations up, which are today in most cases a private enterprise (prisons that is), with assistance and grants from the govt of the country their in, poor schools and stupid laws equal high prison population, which in turn equals more money for the state/country, the ruling class are theives
The thing you get wrong here is this: According to the Law, when a person commits a crime, it is behaving wrongly against the State itself. There’s not really a “private” victim, the victim will always be the State. That’s why prosecutors will go ahead with the prosecution even after the charges are dropped by the victim. That’s also why we have such things as “Miranda vs Arizona”.
there are two types of people citizens and sovereigns, the citizen is essentially a slave of the bankers and he has been offered as collateral for the loans the US has outstanding.
Name dropping doesn’t impress me. Explain your position using logic or concede.
6 Cops disliked this vid lol. Typical Police Behavior, and the worst part of it is, they’re too brainwashed to see the consequences of their actions.
Prisons for profit, you get what you bye into. You as society bought into the fear. So who is truely responsible. Dumb as fear mongering society
I DO NOT HAVE TO RESPECT A PIECE OF SHIT, MOST POLICEMEN ARE A PIECE OF SHIT.. MY WIFE AND I WAS TAKEN FROM OUR MOTOR HOME IN JOLIET, ILLINOIS KNOCK US TO THE GROUND AND BEATEN BY 4 POLICEMEN ABOUT 15 OTHER PLOICEMEN STOOD AROUND AND DID NOT HELP US. AT ALL. BLEEDING ALL OVER WE ARE 66 & 67 Y.O.It’s obvious that the police are the common enemy of the people POLICE ARE ARMED AND RETARDED THEY WILL HURT YOU ONLY THING ON MY RECORD IS A SPEEDING TICKET IN 1992, THEY ONLY PROTECT THE RICH POWERFUL
land of the free… oh the irony.
I think that it wouldn’t be a bad idea to use public flogging as punishment for certain crimes rather than long prison sentences. Not only would it adequately punish the criminal, it would make an example of him for other potential criminals as well as free up prisons to hold the more dangerous criminals.
Nice to hear logic and reason once in a while
That’s my whole point. Did you actually read it? There is nothing “natural” about those rights you refer to.
“Before the EPA, an individual could sue another individual, person or corp, for relief. ”
You are a moron. These companies don’t exist anymore or are too big for one individual to realistically sue.
Yeah, I can tell I’m really screwed because the government is stopping big companies from dumping toxic pollutants near my house! OH NOES!
That’s retarded. There are many crimes with no immediate victims that should be punished. Sometimes the victim is society itself.
For example, the industrial area that I live near. Some assholes used to dump their industrial waste onto their own properties 30-40 years ago before Environmental Protection Laws. Today it is seeping into nearby areas.
At the time, this was a “victimless” crime.
BTW, there is no such thing as “natural” rights. It is a man made concept.
It also has to do with placing nonviolent offenders in an environment that is likely to turn them violent.
Now I want to play Braid.
very interesting video thought provoking shit he nailed it at the end
“the perfect threat is the one that never has to be carried out”
Lol, do you even know what libertarian is? Your ad hominem attacks backed by your lack of an education don’t phase me, but in fact just make you look like a pompous idiot. I’ve made plenty of valid points such as pointing out idiots and their lack of knowledge on the subject at hand. I’m not on welfare, I never said Ron Paul is bad, you need to retake grade school because you’ve obviously failed. Also, why would I be afraid of Ron Paul when I support 90% of what he says?
Why would reason post this garbage? The problem has to do with punishing people for doing nothing wrong.
The US needs more non-custodial rehabilitative sentencing options, where people perform community work and undergo assessment and treatment for the issues that are causing them to offend. Works very well here in Australia.
did I mention Alex Jones asshole? the only one regurgitating out of their cocksucker is the Obama cum coming out of your mouth. Don’t lie and say you are a libertarian, you don’t even know the meaning. all you do is call people names and make no points, typical leftwing government knows best for you redirect. RP may never be president but he is opening the eyes of many people and that scares you because if he does, you will be losing your welfare check. stupid cocksucker!
Professor Kleiman, what you say in this video is very reasonable. The next part of the public policy / civics lesson–and perhaps you have included this in your book–is what the average citizen can do to move our criminal justice system in the direction you are advocating. And, of course, we have the federal justice system, the state prison systems, and local county and city jails to deal with.
Education on this issue is paramount. Thank you, professor, for your contribution.